french mas rifle 308

I even stripped it all down and gave it a couple of coats of 50-50 linseed oil and turpentine on all the wood. I have the same situation with the Swiss K31 that is in excellent condition and a Swedish Mauser built around 1915 in excellent condition that I HAVE NEVER FIRED. The vast majority of the problems associated with MAS 49/56 arise from bubba’ed .308 conversions. The 7.5x54mm French cartridge is nothing to mess with. APEX Gun Parts is your source for hard to find gun parts, parts kits, and accessories. It’s a fine rifle, but it isn’t the end-all, be-all. have been thinking of getting one but now prices are approaching $600 to$700 and up depending upon accesories included. I guess it just depends on which drunken monkey reworked it. Rifle Sling, MAS Rifles Excellent 15.00 Rifle Sling, MAS Rifles, Used 8.00 Magazine MAS 44, 49 and 49/56 Rifles 15.00, EXCELLENT 25.00 Magazine MAS49/56 .308 caliber 25.00. Sights: front sight is a vertical blade with protective ears (elevation adjustable) , rear sight is simple aperture (windage-adjustable) (think AR-15 type sights) Obviously, it’s more available on the modern surplus market (and cheaper), but in terms of performance / ballistics, I think the two rounds are very similar. Michael: I think you missed my point. Sorry for my english Some 49/56's were sold here in 308 but as far as I know these were rechambered guns for commercial sale. Like Joe, I also spent some time in boots as an Army officer, and some of that in the sandbox, and I know which rifle I’d prefer to take into combat. Phil Little Sort of like being a cubs fan in a way. Great review. See OPOSTROPHE. please if its not trouble send me an email when you have the site up and running … Aloha. Now the strange part. Barrel Length: 20.25 inches This process existed – several thousand of these weapons were modified by the French in this way. For a while, it was possible to buy a commercial titanium firing pin to replace the heavy steel factory firing pin. In the interest of full disclosure, I did experience one major malfunction while on the range. I have one Springfield Garand, a Danish return, and one MAS 49/56 with all the extras, as new. 4) Yes you can top up a Garand clip. The post-WWII period was a very interesting one, in terms of small arms development. in that nation, and weapons of that make which arrived in Africa in Which makes military sense, as well as fiscal sense, but it does deprive gun collectors of the rich and varied selection of weapons of the WWII and earlier era. The MAS 49-56 is a great rifle and handles and shoots well. an evolutionary “dead end” ??? I’ve also found the H4831SC and a 180 grain bullet work great as long as you make sure to raise the battle sight. This type of rifle is quite similar to the custom Mosin-Nagant used by Albanians of Xhemati Alban, as well as the craft-produced anti-material rifles based on 12,7mm and 14,5mm tubes. MAS-49/56 it’s a great and very efficient gun. Awesome rifle, PS, E. Zach Lee-Wright: $100.00. Tom, The MAS 1936 was the last mass adopted main line bolt action In fact, the MAS 49 is not a post WWII development. Using the back of your hand against the charging handle also helps line everything up. the colonies. So the main question is why did NATO fart around for a decade after WW2 creating a round that was no better than the already existing French round? No running away. Those two numbers represent the year the rifle was re-arsenaled. France does not like it weapons and prefers sell them overseas or send them in foundries, than sell them to those who have used them during their military service! 1942 often were unserviceable in a few days. I like the 49/56 in the orginal 7,5mm french too. The Swedish Ljungman (which may have been a WWII-era design, I can’t remember) and the Egyptian Hakim (sp?) I suspect for the average soldier the mas may have actually given some advantage for the reasons given……but for a true rifleman the Garand would be the better choice IMHO. the weapon was used in training. The Garand was designed in the early 1930s while the MAS49 came in at the early 1950s. Yes in 308 and never had any problems with it. Went to resize some of the once or twice fired Winchester brass and they wouldn’t fit in the shellholder because the rim and base were too big. Production stopped 1963 and it is estimated that total production numbered approximately 280,000 units. I own one of these (With all accesories and about 1500 rounds of Privi 7.5 French) and it is my go-t0 MBR. Once you get in an urban combat situation, for example, you are at a serious disadvantage. . I am now working on modifying metric FAL 20 round magazines to properly lock on the MAS, just a pass time. The Garand has more than a little French in it. 1936 Chambered for 7.62 NATO (.308 Win.) I interviewed a retiree from 2eme REP living in Florida who served in Zaire. Oh Gawd, shield my eyes from that ugly, ugly stick. Runs beautifully with steel-cased ammo, the only brass I've tried were reloads that did result in FTE's, but as I've said, seems to work beautifully with the steel-cased … I still have it and shot a doe with it this year. Bottom line: stay away from CAI conversions unless you can verify that they are “shooters.”. But I suppose national pride required that they design a round that was unique to France, even if it drew heavily from foreign cartridge designs. Too pricey and hard to find. The Germans in this war would have been surprised to learn they suffered over 100,000 casualties from a cowardly running away French army. West – Thank you for your insightful comments. Unlike the SKS, however, the firing pin on any MAS-49/56 is “free-floating” within the bolt. @Jad Doherty… YOUR (possessive) grammar skills are even worse. Users of the SKS will immediately recognize the similarity between the two systems, as above and below. If ordered to load a round they would do I am guessing that the US had too much invested in their own arms and ammo to alter what they had stockpiled. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. MAS Rifles Semi-Auto Rifles 49/56. Have you ever had any problems with the difference in pressure between the .308 and 7.5 round? The US did not find it easy either did they? The rifle was designed to be reliable in very rugged conditions. It's not how many you shoot, it's how many that connect. The Garand clip is like taking the best features of the French (Berthier, RSC 1917/1918, etc) and Swiss (K11/K31/etc) clips/cartridges and increasing capacity and cutting down the number of reloading steps. I would buy one if i can find a imported one that is outside of the CAI realm (the same company that fucked up the retarded simple WASR10). Add to My Saved Parts. French military casualties 6million (1.3 million dead) out of a population of 36 million. I digress . Have pity. Before the 90's, the term was not well defined and was used as a general description for all types of military rifles. The guy gave a good review of the rifle, he liked it so what. Heaps of military ingenuity….. So I at least did fire one of the MAS rifles. Makes a wonderful hog hunt rifle. The 8x50R Fusil Automatique RSC M le 1917 semi-automatic rifle (1917 - 1925) (Under Construction). For some reason people love to hate French designs. Apparently, the French military did not trust their soldiers to fully disassemble their rifles, so it uses weird screws. Neither rifle had any sort of malfunction, and we agreed that my original rifle with surplus ammo seemed hotter than the conversion. How can I do this or who can I send my rifle to to be installed. He claimed, and was not the first to do so to me, that when supplies got short they would clean the rifles with diesel gasoline as a solvent and use motor oil for lubrication, a small amount would keep the rifles running fine (I was never sure if he meant this is what happened in Zaire or if it happened in general). Those intended for commercial sale were suppose to go to the United States as the .308/7.62x51mm round is technically illegal to own in France (although there is a process unknown to me that a French citizen can obtain permits to own a rifle in this calibre.). This rifle was the main battle rifle used by the French during WW2 and was in service until 1949 when it was replaced with the semi-automatic MAS 49. Go to my website and contact Bill Toth. Well I can not get the mas49/56 to shoot more accurate than my sks that is new and one holes at 100 yards with scope. The 49/56 would be my first choice for a fight followed by the G3. The original serial number will be stamped vertically next to the forestock. Many had been re-arsenaled and are therefore in excellent condition. Not a reliable weapon and no parts. Some work, some don’t. I have to agree. Yes I am dumb for having these 3 excellent old rifles and NEVER firing them…..LOL!! It I have one in .308 that was good at destroying spent brass. Action: Gas operated, air-cooled, tilting bolt; shoulder fired I don’t know of any vendors that currently have these in stock, but I do see “used” ones at guns shows and gun shops on a semi-frequent basis. This is the direct successor of the MAS 40 and MAS 44. While no longer ubiquitous, the MAS-49/56 will still occasionally come up for sale at gun shows. Magazine French MAS Model 45 22 long rifle 5 round . Why should the French immediately drop a round they have been using since 1929 to use a round that has similar ballistic properties down to pressure values (7.62×51)? I own two FN FALs and I think it would be a horrible choice for an infantry rifle. But the British were happy with their Enfields. Finally, excess grease or oil can interfere with the free-floating firing pin. Every nation except the US went into WWII with the same basic rifle that they’d used 20 years before in WWI, and so after WWII, there was an explosion of innovation as all the former combatants scrambled around to “modernize” their forces. Shipping. Such as “Its really great rifle was warm from shooting at the ass who corrected the spelling of Joe”. 308 but the 308 is about 1/2″ shorter than the 7.5 . If you liked this, please consider supporting the channel on Patreon HERE: https://www.patreon.com/MikeB128 Some of the designs caught on (the Spanish CETME that became the H&K G3, and the FN/FAL spring to mind), others kind of fizzled out (the M14, the Beretta BM 59 and 62 and the MAS.) In addition, the weapon can be A substantial majority have historically occurred inside of 100 yards. Payment. I have acquired a converted specimine and have had pretty good luck so far. The Remington has the same base and rim diameters as the standard .308, .30-06 etc. You will be very happy that you did. YOU’RE (you are) making a joke, right? While the technology may not have been ready then, in hindsight it appears that those problems could have been overcome by the '30s. The problem you helpfully describe was one common one – easily fixed but not by a novice. Je m’appelle Corette. There were not. I know from personal experience that the firing pin retaining pin on an M-16 is easily misplaced in the field, esp. The MAS case is bigger, so that was no surprise. When I first tested mine it was in the Nebraska Sandhills. In that dirty dusty place I can not think of a rifle that could take so much abuse and still work and when there was any problem any knuckle headed legionnaire could get it working ASAP. French mil-sup ammo is getting increasingly rare in today’s commercial market. IT’S (it is) a widespread problem for our country and ITS (possessive) future. Not only could people with the original chambering of 7.5 French convert, but also those with botched Century.308 conversions. themselves that the loaded chamber was present, and indeed was a Forgive me if I don’t introduce myself to you the next time I see you on the range. Personally if I could convert my MAS to.308 I would shoot it all the time and put some serious rounds down range, where now I hardly ever shoot it. Having said that, some of the new shortened versions made by DSA seem quite compelling – at least on paper (I’ve never fired the shortened DSA models, so it’s hard for me to say for sure). The features you a good gun, I have one converted by the french to 308, no problems, rapid fire great! Until it breaks and can’t get parts, will use it over an AR-10 for pig hunting any day. 1936. Purchased a 49/56 CA 308 conversion in the 90s and love it. The MAS 49/56’s place in history will, like the M-14, be relegated to a historical footnote due to the fact that the U.S. (and hence NATO) began making the shift to the 5.56 x 45 round in the early to mid 1960s. bullet rated at (an optimistic) 2,800 fps, putting it more-or-less in the .308 class without a lot of quibbling over grains, fps or thousandths of an inch. Another common source of problems stems from the use of commercial 7.5x54mm  ammunition made in countries other than France. Its too bad, though, because its a really great rifle. Although limited ammunition availability lessens this weapon’s appeal as an everyday shooter, it should be considered an important and inexpensive addition to the mil-sup collector’s arsenal. What do you think is superior about the .308 over the French 7.5? 1871 Franco Prussian war- French loss Casualties 250,000. Got to run. Finished are the torn apart caseings….. Um, the Garand CAN be topped off at anytime, but its kinda hard to do with single rounds, hence why it was designed to have the clip itself manually ejected and a fresh one inserted, its much faster than topping off. I actually agree with you that the “weird” caliber makes it a non-starter as an “every-day shooter” alternative to an AR or AK. rifles. MAS continued to design a number of relatively short-lived semi-automatic rifles from the 1920s through the ’40s, and the French Army approved the MAS 49 for standard-issue on July 12, 1949. Original French MAS-49 Mas-56 firing Pin,308 7.5 french. $5.50. the MAS 1949 were included in most kits to allow the shooter to add Just to the right of the original serial number there may be another stamp: a “P” followed by two numbers in a square. He was pointing out examples of battles where U.S. troops broke and ran / surrendered. In their importation hey-day, nice examples could be had at retail for $220 with three magazines, bayonet, scabbard, rubber recoil boot, night sights, and full accessory kit. The next time that I see you at the range, I will gladly extend my hand to you.. right after I knock YOUR ass onto the deck! The OUT OF STOCK. Put it in the press, ran it through the Lee die and then sized a bunch of Remington 6.5×55 brass no big deal worked fine. to disassemble of any bolt action, and it does not need to use the This item is very nice product. Fyi these rifles had been an attempt to introduce the MAS on the US market for sport shooting. Why is France considered a cowardly country and their army weak? I don’t know if they have any in stock but J&G sales in AZ is a good site for interesting and/or obscure firearms. Someone needs to make them in a good reliable 308 version to get my attention. Sometimes one gets lucky I got one of the (few) good 308 converted MAS. The Battle of Franceand following German occupation of France prevented large scale introduction of semi-…

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